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Vikram gupta
10th May 2017, 00:19
This machine is based on gravity power and seesaw system.I already have written about it in my previous post but this is a simple version based on that concept.
We can make it more simple .
As per sketch there will be two seesaw system and both will be attached with a hook.This hook will work to hold the seesaw.There will a middle track which will work a pathway to transport the object from one seesaw to another seesaw.
There will be two motors which will work to inclined the both side seesaw systems by pushing the counter weight side of each seesaw.
When right side motor will work to push up the counter weight side of seesaw then it will be inclined and object will get start to move towards left side and arrived on the left side seesaw and now left side motor will work to push the counter weight side arm to inclined the seesaw and object will move towards right side.
In this way each seesaw will work turn by turn.
I would like to insist on some following point.
(1) The hook will work to hold the counter weight so that the seesaw couldn't be imbalanced after unloading the object.
(2) we can set up a generator under the counter weight to generate energy and with object also.
(3)the length of middle track will be less than the length of arm of seesaws.
(4)The motors will work to push the arm of counter weights side towards upside .
(5)we can take the object mass from 100 to 1000 kilogram OR MORE.
(6) It will be single track system in this system no need of taking double track.
(7)The output will be more and more than input as we all know that there will be need of very very less energy to move a balanced seesaw system.
(8) It will work REALLY.
My earnest request that someone must come forward to build it from this community.I HAVE DONE MANY EXPERIMENTS TO KNOW THE FEASIBILITY OF THIS TECH AND IF SOMEONE HAS ANY DOUBTS THEN I'M READY TO CLEAR THE DOUBTS.
Vikram kumar Gupta
email:vikram_gupta11@rediffmail.com
Joe Blake
10th May 2017, 19:41
Hmm. The Silly Season has opened early this year.:nuts:
Rob Beckers
11th May 2017, 15:24
Hi Vikram,
Over-unity machines (where you get more energy out than you put in) never work. They violate at least one fundamental law of nature. So far nobody has managed to get away with that one.
I'm trying to follow how your setup would work: So the motor lifts up the right side, the side with the mass will incline and the mass will roll down the ramp, trading potential energy (height) for kinetic energy (speed). I assume the middle track is connected to the two see-saws, so it will move down on one side, up the other (since there seems to be a pivot in the middle). That middle track will have to gain length to do so, by the way, but that can be constructed. The left side of the middle track will move up, so that mass will trade kinetic energy back to potential energy, minus friction losses. It'll go up the hill on the left side, until all kinetic energy is expended.
I'm not seeing where the 'gain' would be...
Now, if this is as easy to build as you claim, why not make one, and show us in a Youtube video that it works?
-RoB-
Joe Blake
12th May 2017, 00:16
Vikram,
Australia is presently in the middle of an energy crisis, with a shortage of supply and increasing prices being the main bugbears. In September 2016 the entire state of South Australia was taken off grid due to a severe weather event, and I have in the last couple of days written a post on the forum containing the transcript of an article on ABC TV's "Four Corners" program, explaining how critical the matter has become.
https://www.greenpowertalk.org/showthread.php?t=23391
You should not waste your time posting in this forum, asking for somebody (else) to do something. You should approach the Australian Minister for Environment and Energy, Josh Frydenberg directly.
http://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Parliamentarian?MPID=FKL
If your idea has any merit, it will be welcomed with open arms and possibly great financial reward. So get off your backside and do something. You could become a national hero in this country.
Vikram gupta
12th May 2017, 03:52
Dear Mr.Rob,
You have not understood it clearly ,what I want to tell.
the middle track will work only as pathway and it will not move but stable ,Only both side seesaws will be inclined turn by turn.
I have test it with some wooden tracks and a ball and got the result what I was expecting.I also did some work on a BIG seesaw with some children and found that I 'm right as I had to apply only 3 newton force to lift up the seesaw with children's weight(each side 150 kilogram).
As per the attached sketch the stand which is attached with counter weight side of each seesaw will work to hold the position of seesaw so that the seesaw couldn't get imbalanced after unloading the ball . when motor will apply the force on counter weight Arm of left seesaw then the ball will get start rolling down and arrived on right side seesaw.But the counter weight arm will move towards down side and hit with a piston generator with attached stand, which will work to generate electricity.
if motors lift the counter weight arm up to 50 centimeter then using potential energy formula
P.E.=mgh
P.E.=1000*10*.50
P.E.=5000 joule
P.E.=K.E.
K.E.=5000 joule
The output is 5000 joule and as per my worked on big seesaw the input will be only 3 newton force.
So I 'm 101% confident that this system will work .I would also like to attract your attention on a mechanical advantage of rolling ball and its distance from fulcrum.When motor will lift up the counter weight arm of seesaw and ball will get rolling down then the rolling ball will also apply a force as it will move further from fulcrum.
Friction will be not an issue in this design as the velocity of rolling ball will be sufficient to arrived on other side seesaw.
I don't have a high facility lab and I cannot afford the cost as my earning is very less but whatever worked I have done so far is before you.
If you have any other doubts then I can clear it.
Rob Beckers
13th May 2017, 07:37
Hi Vikram,
Thank you for your continued explanation!
Unfortunately I'm still not seeing where the gain is. You're simply trading off potential and kinetic energy. The fact that it only takes a few Newton to unbalance the seesaw has nothing to do with this, that is a straw-man fallacy. Any balanced mass only takes a minute amount of force to start it moving.
Your drawing shows the fulcrum itself extending and contracting. If that indeed happens it'll take a heck of a lot more than 3 Newton to raise a 1000kg block by half a meter (and you're also lifting the counterweight).
If I assume the height of the fulcrum is constant (likely what you intended) then you're using a small force to unbalance the seesaw and get the heavy ball rolling. When the ball leaves the left track the generator gets back the energy that the ball lost by moving to a lower plane of potential energy, and you get back potential energy you put in to the counterweight yourself by initially raising it to its balance level.
Let's take this one step back to something that is a bit more fundamental: If you believe in the spontaneous creation of energy out of nothing there is a problem. Very firmly established and thoroughly proven theory contradicts this. It violates fundamental laws that form the basis of our models of physics at the macro level. This is not just "another scientific model as valid as any other model" as creationists and climate-change-deniers so much like to point out. Conservation of energy is not in dispute any more and has not been for a century or so.
If you do indeed believe energy can be created just like that then we are done talking. As it is indeed 'believe' as in another form of religion, lacking any semblance of proof. Hiding behind the argument that it's too costly to build is unfortunately not a valid scientific proof. The burden is on you to provide evidence that the rest of the scientific community got it wrong (which will then be peer-reviewed and subjected to more experiment, such is the way science works).
-RoB-
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