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Sean D'Epagnier
3rd February 2015, 07:19
About 6 years ago, I got a sailboat, engine free. I use a few 50 watt panels to run a computer, and rice cooker. I build wood fires to cook. I'm not buying any fuels, and not really buying anything besides food, often I can obtain via barter rather than money.

I slowly make my way around the planet, have been to 14 countries.

The fishing boats in malaysia don't understand anything or just don't care about boat or propeller efficiency. Local people complain about the tropical heat, and I explain to them its because they sit in air-con all day that it seems so extreme whenever they do go outside. I can't convince anyone, they are obsessed with consumption. Sail powered boats are practically non-existent worldwide. I have had locals drive their boat in front of mine causing collision, then demand money to pay for spilled gasoline.

Everywhere respected people who have power and have more money cause more pollution. In New Zealand I have seen signs in cross walks saying that motorists have right of way over pedestrians.

What I am getting at, is worldwide, with very few exceptions, people want to cause as much emissions as they possibly can. They work extra hours not needed to meet basic needs just so they can buy things which cause more pollution, and this is a growing trend, not reducing.

The CO2 levels already reached 400ppm and are increasing Isn't it true this equals the levels of the eiocene epoch 24 million years ago? In this period, there is evidence of palm trees above the arctic circle as this region did not freeze even in the dark winter in coastal areas. Where would the best places on earth to live be? Maybe impossible to know because the most hospitable land will be fought over, so the best places might be more difficult regions?

If the emissions continue beyond 600ppm human survival is in serious question.

The mass extinction from 250 million years ago (just before dinosaurs), is believed to have occurred over a period of a few thousand years was first triggered by a 5C temperature rise from massive volcanic eruptions. The warming eventually warmed the oceans down the the sea floors which then released massive amounts of trapped methane. Once released the world experienced a 10C temperature rise which essentially destroyed all plant life and the entire world became barren like the sahara desert for millions of years. This can be found from fossil evidence. I imagine the average rise would be much higher in polar regions, so the amount of hospitable land would be extremely limited, and the environment would be unlike anywhere plants grow today.

Where will humans be able to survive? Putting a few solar panels up is a great way to make power now, but isn't going to make any difference. Collectively the human species is incapable of withdrawing from selfish individual goals. We are on a boat in a river and can hear the waterfall we are approaching but cannot reach shore fast enough because only one person in the boat wants to. What preparations are you taking? A few cans of food isn't going to work.

Maybe it's ok? Like an individual, humanity must die also? Maybe we at least have time to do something meaningful first? Like launch asteroids with frozen bacteria on them in courses toward known exo-planets?

Or maybe there is a way to survive? Perhaps some people can already do it but are waiting for the heat to kill off 99.9% of the people, then use solar power to grow algae to make oil to pump underground for thousands of years while people live in bio-domes?

Joe Blake
5th February 2015, 19:45
For myself our current trends have been on the radar since the early 1960s, but what I've noticed is that many people (fortunately fewer than previously, but still many - and in power!) flatly refuse to believe that human activity has had ANY effect on the climate When challenged they respond by quoting Christopher Monckton!

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Monckton_Myths_arg.htm

I owned a small catamaran, many years ago, and also flew hang gliders.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j245/saxeharp/SL/surfcat02_zps6c360b79.jpg

Whilst they were both used for recreation, and consumed little or no energy, they still had to be transported, which took a vehicle fitted with an internal combustion engine.

These days I ride a bicycle or solar assisted recumbent tricycle for recreation and shopping. I think our problem today is not the use of technology, but inappropriate technology.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j245/saxeharp/trike/P2190002_zps1a0aa0a0.jpg


I bought a knitting machine and sewing machine in 1979 and can make my own clothes. I also make my own shoes.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j245/saxeharp/public/socks_zpsddc09dd8.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j245/saxeharp/public/shoes_zps96deaca3.jpg

And grow vegetables.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j245/saxeharp/public/fridge_zps253a024b.jpg

I've been addressing many of my own concerns over the past decades and whilst I have met with many supportive responses, I am still met with hostility because eg I generate my own power or harvest rainwater, whilst the cost of non renewable energy or reticulated water is constantly rising, and it is somehow my fault. It's sort of like your person trying to get money for petrol they lost in an incident caused by them. It's always somebody else's fault.

There are many ways of addressing the problems, too many to list here, but a little imagination and lashings of the mental lubricant, Google, will uncover them. What is needed is education in logical thinking.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j245/saxeharp/general10/brolly02_zpsabf3847c.jpg

eg making a solar cooker from an umbrella.
Re your pedestrian crossings with vehicular priority. We have apparently the same thing here, but it's not as simple as in the first glance. Where there are speed humps in the road, the authorities paint warning strips on the road surface before the hump, which look similar to a zebra crossing, though they are not in fact gazetted pedestrian crossings, but pedestrians simply walk out into the road without realising this.

http://sr.photos3.fotosearch.com/bthumb/CSP/CSP990/k10812897.jpg