View Full Version : Ontario's Green Act is illegal; taken to court by EU, JAPAN
Patrick Black
17th August 2011, 09:12
http://abetterenergyplan.ca/#/news/attacking_tarrif
It will be a disaster if Ontario is forced to cancel this program. Can the program survive without the made-in-Ontario requirement?
Michel de Breyne
24th August 2011, 11:23
I think it was only a matter of time until this happened (I'm actually surprised it took this long).
In the end, probably won't make a difference since I suspect the program will be done by the end of the year when a new government comes into Ontario.
James Bourgeois
25th August 2011, 07:27
I think it was only a matter of time until this happened (I'm actually surprised it took this long).
In the end, probably won't make a difference since I suspect the program will be done by the end of the year when a new government comes into Ontario.
Lets just hope the Government doesnt change their mind about the current contracts they have right now if the PCs get in.
If I had a 10KW system in my back yard I would get off of Hydro ones teet.
Ralph Day
25th August 2011, 07:28
As soon as the big ticket items in a solar system HAD to be Ontario content (panels and inverters) the disturbers come out of the woodwork. Wiring, racking etc is not a great percentage of a system's cost, but panels and inverters are.
Any tracker systems I've seen are Dagger from Germany. Panels almost all from China. If the programs survive any backward looking types (Ontario PC's) there's still hope for a Green industry here.
BLT's.. looking backwards to the Harris years for the future. :embarrassedt:
Ralph
Michel de Breyne
25th August 2011, 07:38
Lets just hope the Government doesnt change their mind about the current contracts they have right now if the PCs get in.
If I had a 10KW system in my back yard I would get off of Hydro ones teet.
I'd be very, very surprised if they cancelled current contracts. I think any cancellations of the FIT would be going forward. I haven't actually read through a contract but I suspect they can't just cancel it unilateraly at any time (I know that my bank will give out loans if you have a conditional offer so presumably they're satisfied that the contract can't just be terminated). If they did want to cancel all existing contracts, I suspect they'd do so by offering bulk payments up front so that you'd agree to cancel it (and then you can continue just doing net-metering or selling your used equipment).
Ralph Day
25th August 2011, 16:38
Great ideas Michel, but how would I get my consumption up to 44kwhr per day? My Microfit put in 16,000kwhrs in it's first year. To net meter that I'd have to buy an electric car, motorcycle, mini-split air source heat pump...any other ideas? My present consumption is about 7kwhr per day. :bigsmile:
Ralph
Rob Beckers
26th August 2011, 07:50
All the talk about possible cancellation of existing FIT and MicroFIT contract has no basis in reality that I'm aware off. These are contracts with the government; if they start canceling those Ontario has a bigger problem than MicroFIT. Nobody will do business with the government again (including businesses, banks, other governments etc). That's just not a realistic scenario and not something I am worried about.
Of course, the opposition can do away with the program if they get to power. They will not be able to cancel contracts (or even conditional offers, which in themselves are binding legal agreements too).
-RoB-
Roy Shi
2nd September 2011, 02:01
Any change may only take effect for the FUTURE NEW contracts/offers.
Otherwise, the government will have to face numerous lawsuits.
Actually, right now it is a very good time for businesses to prompt the (Micro)Fit program.
It is very possible to lower the rate if not cancel the program, but there will be not any chance to increase.
Even CanSia would like to see lower rates.:blink1:
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